I do bereave I said "makie it less viable" not "remove it."

Which is exactly what they're doing. But please, continue to call me dramatic.

Raivi doesn't play eve unless its to tournament test, or orbit+f1.

I want to know what Kovorix thinks about this.

e: If he still plays this game :\

Also Grath you can suck mah dilz with your "It's only a three percent decrease in DPS" bullshit. I just compared my blaster Proteus fit to a version using T1 TEs in EFT and it's a 20% decrease in applied DPS at 24km using Null. On a ship that only hits for 263 dps at 24km as it is.

So yeah, the change does exactly what I was saying it would to kiting blaster cruisers-- totally eviscerates a ship that did mediocre damage to begin with. How ships like this are "problematic" under current mechanics is beyond me. If you and Kil2 have a problem with the Talos (which is more understandable) then take it up with that hull. I'd prefer it if you'd leave the Deimos, Proteus, and Vigilant useable as shield ships.

We have not forgotten solo pilots, even though this ship class does make things somewhat harder for them.

I am aware that any expansion of logistics capability in eve makes things harder for solo players, and we are endeavoring to make sure that these frigates add options to combat instead of taking them away.

Improving solo options without either killing fun aspects of group play or making solo too easymode is definitely a goal of ours, but the solution there isn't to keep the learning cliff facing support pilots.

I understand how much solo players rely on killing key enemy ships fast and how anything that helps gangs keep their ships alive is going to make solo harder.
In the end I believe that the stats on these ships will make them managable for solo and small gangs to face.

More face to face battles yay! I hate when people kite... Grow some balls and fight within scram web range I say!

By the way. The proposed changes are not even that serious. You could just put 3 tracking enhancers on a Hurricane (for example) to counter the proposed changes.

In fact no Minmatar ship is in the TOP 2.

How's life in a world with support frigates going? Have they killed off all solo pvp in the game yet as you predicted?

This change makes Tracking Disruptors even more powerful!

In practice the difference between the old and new TEs when under the influence of multiple range scripted TDs will be insignificant. TDs are a very powerful weapon system, but can be countered. We're continuing to watch ewar balance closely and we will make adjustments as necessary.

The real problem isn't TE's are OP, the real problem is Projectiles uses a different set of math than other turrets.

I have tested this with friends in game, they can hit for perfect damage at max falloff, they can track faster than the game says they should. So much so that when you fly something else, like Amarr, you count falloff as part of your range only to find you do almost no damage past Optimal. While with autocannons falloff is counted just like optimal.

When 425's can track a scepter orbiting you at .78 Transversal, but your guns say they can only track at .15 something is not adding up..

I am almost a pure Minmatar Pilot, I love Autocannons, but even I say they don't follow the same rules as other turrets. Before you hurt EVERYONE, by nerfing a module (which Blasters use the Op/Fall range bonus more than Autos) How about going back and looking at the code that controls projectiles, and see what's broke in it.